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    {
        "role": "user",
        "content": "has%20elections%20canada%20ever%20done%20work%20on%20developing%20a%20mobile%20app%20to%20assist%20voters%20with%20disabilities%20to%20mark%20and%20verify%20their%20federal%20ballot%20in%20a%20federal%20election%3F%20if%20so%2C%20please%20tell%20me%20what%20is%20publicly%20said%20about%20it%20including%20any%20statements%20about%20what%20it%20is%20to%20do%20and%20how%20it%20works%20so%20far."
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        "role": "assistant",
        "content": "Yes \u2014 Elections Canada *has* publicly stated that it is developing a **mobile application** to assist voters with visual impairments (blind or partially sighted electors) to **independently verify** that their ballot is marked correctly. Below is a detailed summary of what is known so far, drawn from official publications and statements.\n\n---\n\n## What is being developed\n\n- **Assistive Voting Technology Development (AVTD) project**  \n  Under its \u201cVoting Tools and Services\u201d pillar, Elections Canada is working on an assistive\u2010voting application that will run on electors\u2019 own mobile devices. Its purpose is to allow electors who are blind or visually impaired to confirm that the ballot they marked reflects their intended choice \u2014 *independently*, *in secrecy*, and *in compliance* with the Canada Elections Act. ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2Fa11pln&document=index&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))\n\n- **Contract awarded**  \n  A competitive procurement process was completed: on March 28, 2024, Elections Canada awarded a contract to *Compusult Ltd.* to build this application. ([elections.ca](https://elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2F2024&document=index&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))\n\n- **Testing / user involvement**  \n  A user group of blind Canadians has been engaged to test the app as it is developed, especially how well it handles challenges like using the camera to read a folded ballot. The AGDI (Advisory Group for Disability Issues) has been part of this testing and consultation. ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2Fmtng&document=sep2025&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))\n\n---\n\n## What it is intended to do / functionality\n\nBased on public sources:\n\n- **Read out candidate names** \u2014 Using audio interfaces, the app will read aloud the names of candidates from the ballot. ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2Fmtng&document=sep2025&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))  \n- **Verify the marked candidate** \u2014 After a voter marks their ballot (presumably with a physical marker), the app should allow them to confirm (visually or via audio) that the mark corresponds to the candidate they intended. ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2Fmtng&document=sep2025&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))  \n- **Operate on personal mobile devices** \u2014 The design is for electors to use their own phone (or similar device) rather than having to use equipment provided at polling places. ([canadabuys.canada.ca](https://canadabuys.canada.ca/sites/default/files/webform/tender_notice/7667/1.-ecsf-rfp-2023-2276-1-assistive-voting-technology-development-%28avtd.pdf?utm_source=openai))  \n- **Protect secrecy and comply with law** \u2014 The application must conform to requirements in the Canada Elections Act regarding secrecy of the vote, etc. ([canadabuys.canada.ca](https://canadabuys.canada.ca/sites/default/files/webform/tender_notice/7667/1.-ecsf-rfp-2023-2276-1-assistive-voting-technology-development-%28avtd.pdf?utm_source=openai))\n\n---\n\n## What stage it is at, and what challenges have been identified\n\n- **Procurement and development**  \n  The contract is in place as of April 2024. Since then, work has been progressing to build the application, including testing with stakeholders. ([elections.ca](https://elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2F2024&document=index&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))\n\n- **Testing challenges**  \n  Some of the technical challenges mentioned include *reading a folded ballot* with the device\u2019s camera. This includes issues with image capture (visibility of the mark), alignment, etc. ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2Fmtng&document=sep2025&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))\n\n- **Evaluating success**  \n  It's being tested by people with visual impairments; feedback is being sought. AGDI is involved in reviewing how well the tool addresses barriers. ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2Fa11pln&document=index&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))\n\n- **Filing under \u201cby 2026 / 2027\u201d timelines**  \n  The Accessibility Plan sets deadlines: the application should be tested and operational sometime in or by 2026. Also, by 2027, there will be a review under the Ballot Modernization Project to consider such tools and other accessibility improvements. ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2Fa11ypln25&document=index&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))\n\n---\n\n## What is *not* yet clear\n\n- **Full deployment** \u2014 As of now, the app is still under development and testing. No federal election has yet used this app in an actual ballot verification scenario. ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2Fa11pln&document=index&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))\n\n- **Detailed user interface / user journey** \u2014 While broad features (reading candidate names; verifying marked ballot) are described, the detailed workflow, such as how ballots are folded or positioned, how the camera captures the marks, whether users need additional assistive hardware, etc., are not fully public yet. ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2Fmtng&document=sep2025&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))\n\n- **Handling of different ballot types** \u2014 For example, long ballots (many candidates), ballots printed in different formats, etc., pose additional complexity. ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2Fmtng&document=sep2025&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))\n\n---\n\nIf you like, I can try to find the **latest** internal user\u2010test findings, prototypes, or screenshots, if there are any publicly released. Would you prefer that?"
    },
    {
        "role": "user",
        "content": "yes%20i%20would%20like%20that%20information%20but%20i%20am%20blind%20so%20i%20need%20any%20visual%20things%20like%20screen%20shots%20to%20be%20described%20in%20words."
    },
    {
        "role": "assistant",
        "content": "Here\u2019s what is publicly known about prototypes, testing, and descriptions of Elections Canada\u2019s assistive\u2010voting\u2010app (for blind or visually impaired voters), including all visual information described in words.\n\n---\n\n## Summary of current prototype/testing status\n\nFrom meetings and reports:\n\n- Elections Canada is working with a *private company* to develop a mobile app that lets blind or visually impaired electors verify independently that their ballot was marked correctly for the candidate they intended. ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2Fmtng&document=sep2025&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))  \n- A user group of Blind Canadians is actively testing the app during its development, providing feedback. ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2Fmtng&document=sep2025&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))  \n- One technical challenge identified is reading *folded ballots* with the device\u2019s camera: how to get a clear image despite folds, lighting, alignment, etc. ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2Fmtng&document=sep2025&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))  \n\n---\n\n## What\u2019s in the Request for Proposal (RFP) \u2013 functional & privacy requirements\n\nThe RFP (Assistive Voting Technology Development, AVTD) document lists many technical features the app must satisfy. Here are key ones, including descriptions that help imagine what the interface will be like:\n\n- **Read candidate names with correct pronunciation.** The app must have text\u2010to\u2010speech or built\u2010in audio such that election candidate names are read correctly. ([canadabuys.canada.ca](https://canadabuys.canada.ca/sites/default/files/webform/tender_notice/7667/1.-ecsf-rfp-2023-2276-1-assistive-voting-technology-development-%28avtd.pdf?utm_source=openai))  \n- **Discard images/data immediately.** After the voter verifies their choice, any image of the ballot or evidence of markings, or any elector data, must be discarded without retention or sharing. ([canadabuys.canada.ca](https://canadabuys.canada.ca/sites/default/files/webform/tender_notice/7667/1.-ecsf-rfp-2023-2276-1-assistive-voting-technology-development-%28avtd.pdf?utm_source=openai))  \n- **Not store or share any data.** The app must not store or transmit any personal data; any processing must be ephemeral. ([canadabuys.canada.ca](https://canadabuys.canada.ca/sites/default/files/webform/tender_notice/7667/1.-ecsf-rfp-2023-2276-1-assistive-voting-technology-development-%28avtd.pdf?utm_source=openai))  \n- **Address mark verification & error feedback.** For example, if a mark is outside the boundary of a ballot circle, or if there are multiple marks, the app must tell the elector why the mark is invalid. ([canadabuys.canada.ca](https://canadabuys.canada.ca/sites/default/files/webform/tender_notice/7667/1.-ecsf-rfp-2023-2276-1-assistive-voting-technology-development-%28avtd.pdf?utm_source=openai))  \n- **Accessibility & usability features.** Required features include voice\u2010over, voice control, text\u2010to\u2010speech, text recognition, ability to resize text, marks being clearly identified, intuitive navigation, etc. ([canadabuys.canada.ca](https://canadabuys.canada.ca/sites/default/files/webform/tender_notice/7667/1.-ecsf-rfp-2023-2276-1-assistive-voting-technology-development-%28avtd.pdf?utm_source=openai))  \n- **Camera access and automatic picture capture.** The app must use the device camera to capture the ballot image, ideally automatically when the ballot image is centered and in focus. The goal is not making the elector manually button\u2010press to take photo. ([canadabuys.canada.ca](https://canadabuys.canada.ca/sites/default/files/webform/tender_notice/7667/1.-ecsf-rfp-2023-2276-1-assistive-voting-technology-development-%28avtd.pdf?utm_source=openai))  \n- **Multi\u2010modal interaction.** Electors should be able to interact via voice commands, not just touch\u2010screens. ([canadabuys.canada.ca](https://canadabuys.canada.ca/sites/default/files/webform/tender_notice/7667/1.-ecsf-rfp-2023-2276-1-assistive-voting-technology-development-%28avtd.pdf?utm_source=openai))  \n- **Support both official languages.** All UI, help/instructional materials, and support need to be available in English and French. ([canadabuys.canada.ca](https://canadabuys.canada.ca/sites/default/files/webform/tender_notice/7667/1.-ecsf-rfp-2023-2276-1-assistive-voting-technology-development-%28avtd.pdf?utm_source=openai))  \n\n---\n\n## Details from AGDI meeting (September 2025) \u2013 how this prototype might work in practice\n\nHere are practical details, including how visual things are being handled, folds, instructions, etc.:\n\n- The app \u201creads out the candidate names on the ballot and confirms the candidate selected by the voter.\u201d This implies spoken output both before selection (candidate list) and as confirmation. ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2Fmtng&document=sep2025&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))  \n- Because ballots are folded (folds hide candidate names/circles), reading a folded ballot is challenging. Possible solutions being discussed include:\n\n  \u2022 Providing a **folding demonstration in person** before voting day.  \n  \u2022 In\u2010polling station **folding templates** (physical guides that show how to fold the ballot correctly).  \n  \u2022 **Audio descriptions** explaining folding techniques. ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2Fmtng&document=sep2025&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))  \n\n- There is concern about very long ballots (many names) which may make navigation by audio or screen difficult. This concern is about usability and how the app will allow efficient navigation. ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2Fmtng&document=sep2025&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))  \n\n---\n\n## What visual UI elements are public so far (and described in words)\n\nAs of yet, there are **no publicly released screenshots or images** of the app itself in official sources. What exists are descriptions in words of how the UI / interaction is intended to work. Based on the RFP and meeting summaries, here are what visual elements might be, in likely form:\n\n- Ballot image captured by the camera, showing candidate circles and names. The app needs to be able to detect the candidate\u2019s marked circle. (The description: camera image must be \u201creadable images of various ballot sizes \u2026 center and focus.\u201d) ([canadabuys.canada.ca](https://canadabuys.canada.ca/sites/default/files/webform/tender_notice/7667/1.-ecsf-rfp-2023-2276-1-assistive-voting-technology-development-%28avtd.pdf?utm_source=openai))  \n- Text labels for candidates that are spoken (text\u2010to\u2010speech) and shown in adjustable font size. \n- Possibly a \u201creview screen\u201d where both visual (text) and audio confirm which candidate the user has selected.  \n- Mark detection feedback: If the mark is in wrong place (outside circle; multiple marks), the app issues visual feedback (which could include highlighting or \u201cred X\u201d or similar) and audio explanation. ([canadabuys.canada.ca](https://canadabuys.canada.ca/sites/default/files/webform/tender_notice/7667/1.-ecsf-rfp-2023-2276-1-assistive-voting-technology-development-%28avtd.pdf?utm_source=openai))  \n\n---\n\n## What is *not* yet available / still uncertain\n\n- No published actual UI mockups or screenshots from user\u2010tests are in the public domain, so I can\u2019t describe them (colors, button positions, exact layout, etc.).  \n- We don\u2019t know exactly how folding templates or folding guides will be presented visually or physically (if in template or digital form), beyond the discussions.  \n- We don\u2019t know the full workflow: whether voter first folds ballot then takes photo; how the app guides you through marking & folding; whether it uses physical templates or digital overlays; etc.  \n\n---\n\nIf you like, I can try to see whether there are video demos (with audio) of the prototype so you might hear what the UI is like. Would that be helpful?"
    },
    {
        "role": "user",
        "content": "yes%20please%20find%20any%20videos%20and%20also%20send%20a%20link%20to%20the%20public%20posting%20about%20feedback%20from%20their%20AVT%20testing%20group%20of%20blind%20people%20plus%20any%20list%20of%20who%20is%20on%20that%20group%3F"
    },
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        "role": "assistant",
        "content": "I found the following information on **videos**, **feedback from the AVTD user group**, and **names of the testers / AGDI members**. All of the video or visual resources I located are described in words for you.\n\n---\n\n## Videos\n\n1. **2010 By-elections \u2013 Assistive Voting Device Pilot Project (Winnipeg North)**  \n   This is a video that shows a *simulation* of an earlier generation assistive voting device (AVD) used in the 2010 Winnipeg North by-election. ([elections.ca](https://elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=pas%2F2010b%2F46012%2Favd&document=index&lang=e&section=ele&utm_source=openai))  \n   Description in words:  \n   - Demonstrates how the device helps people with various disabilities to mark a ballot independently and in secrecy.  \n   - Uses a printer, headphones, privacy screen, and a secrecy box over the printer to maintain secrecy. ([elections.ca](https://elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=pas%2F2010b%2F46012%2Favd&document=index&lang=e&section=ele&utm_source=openai))  \n   - Offers tactile controls (raised buttons or controller), high-contrast screen, audio and visual review before printing the ballot. ([elections.ca](https://elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=pas%2F2010b%2F46012%2Favd&document=index&lang=e&section=ele&utm_source=openai))\n\n2. **Other older videos on accessible voting tools and services**  \n   Elections Canada hosts general videos explaining its accessible voting tools: large print ballots, braille lists, tactile templates, magnifiers, etc. None are specific demonstrations of the current AVTD app prototype. ([elections.ca](https://elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=pas%2F45ge%2Fspr%2Facc%2Fvids%2Fvotats&document=index&lang=e&section=ele&utm_source=openai))\n\n**Current status**: I did *not* find any publicly released video or demo of the **new Assistive Voting Technology (AVTD) mobile app** (for blind or partially sighted electors) as of the latest public documents. Public AGDI meeting summaries describe prototypes, but no video of use of those prototypes is yet publicly posted. ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2Fmtng&document=sep2024&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))\n\n---\n\n## Feedback from the AVT (AVTD) testing group of blind or visually impaired persons\n\nFrom AGDI meeting summaries and Elections Canada publications:\n\n- In the AGDI meeting of **February 27, 2025**, Elections Canada reported that the AVTD application is **finished**, but **requires user feedback** to make final adjustments or tweaks. Electors who tested it *were excited* about it, but *also pointed out some issues*, which the agency is working to resolve. ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2Fmtng&document=feb2725&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))  \n- Issues included difficulty when using the camera to read *folded ballots* (folds in paper interfere with image capture, alignment etc.). ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2Fmtng&document=sep2025&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))  \n- Suggestions from blind users/testers include providing instructions or tools to help fold ballots in consistent ways: in-person folding demonstration, audio description of folding, or physical folding templates at polling stations. ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2Fmtng&document=sep2025&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))  \n- Users expressed concern about **long ballots** with many names: those balls can be overwhelming, hard to navigate through audio or tactile or visually. ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2Fmtng&document=sep2025&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))  \n\n---\n\n## Who is in the AVTD testing group / Advisory Group for Disability Issues (AGDI)\n\nWhile I could *not* find a public document that lists *exactly which blind or visually impaired individuals* are in the specific *user testing group* for the AVTD prototype, I found a list of AGDI members who are involved in accessibility consultation and some overlap with the testing feedback.\n\n### AGDI member names (many are from organizations serving persons with visual disability or cross-disability):\n\nFrom AGDI meeting summary September 10\u201311, 2025: ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2Fmtng&document=sep2025&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))\n\n- Danique Dupuis-Buiss\u00e9  \n- Duane Morgan  \n- H\u00e9l\u00e8ne H\u00e9bert  \n- Jocelyne Pambrun  \n- Kory Earle-Morrow  \n- Maude Massicotte  \n- Michael Ciarciello  \n- Noah Papatsie  \n- Shawna Joynt  \n\nAlso, in earlier AGDI meetings (e.g. in 2019), other members include: Diane Bergeron (Canadian National Institute of the Blind), Gary Birch (Neil Squire Society), and more. ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/abo/adv/acpp/sum/rep22/docs/2020_11_24_AGDI_Meeting_Summary_e.pdf?utm_source=openai))\n\n### Testing group\n\n- The AGDI meeting summaries explicitly say Elections Canada has \u201cengaged a user group of Blind Canadians\u201d to test the app. ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2Fmtng&document=sep2025&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))  \n- However, there is *no published list* naming the individual participants in that \u201cuser group of blind Canadians\u201d testing the AVTD prototype (distinct from AGDI membership). AGDI members provide feedback, and some AGDI members might be part of that user group, but not clearly identified as testers in the public documents. ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2Fmtng&document=sep2025&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))\n\n---\n\n## Public posting/link to the AVT FAQ\n\nElections Canada publishes a **FAQ page** about the Assistive Voting Technology (AVT / AVTD). Key points from it:\n\n- The application allows *blind and partially sighted electors* to use their own mobile devices to privately and independently vote using standard paper ballots, either at polling stations or at Elections Canada offices. ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?bcgovtm=20230227_MMHA_IP_ASD__LEARN_ADW_BCGOV_EN_BC__TEXT&dir=faq&document=faqelec&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))  \n- How it works: The user takes a photo of the blank ballot, the app reads out candidate names, then the user marks the ballot (physically), then takes a photo of the marked ballot; the app verifies and tells the user which candidate they selected; it also notifies if an unacceptable mark was made. ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?bcgovtm=20230227_MMHA_IP_ASD__LEARN_ADW_BCGOV_EN_BC__TEXT&dir=faq&document=faqelec&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))  \n- What happens to the images: they are deleted automatically once the user has completed the marking process. The images are not stored anywhere. ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?bcgovtm=20230227_MMHA_IP_ASD__LEARN_ADW_BCGOV_EN_BC__TEXT&dir=faq&document=faqelec&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))  \n- Security: the app will be tested for security and stability. Partner company is *Compusult Ltd.*; contract awarded in April 2024. ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?bcgovtm=20230227_MMHA_IP_ASD__LEARN_ADW_BCGOV_EN_BC__TEXT&dir=faq&document=faqelec&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))  \n- Cost: contract value is **$328,500**. ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?bcgovtm=20230227_MMHA_IP_ASD__LEARN_ADW_BCGOV_EN_BC__TEXT&dir=faq&document=faqelec&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))  \n- Timeline: to be introduced gradually, starting possibly in an upcoming by-election or in the next general federal election. ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?bcgovtm=20230227_MMHA_IP_ASD__LEARN_ADW_BCGOV_EN_BC__TEXT&dir=faq&document=faqelec&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))  \n\nHere is a text link to that FAQ page:  \n**Assistive Voting Technology FAQs** \u2013 Elections Canada  \n(Public FAQs page on Elections Canada\u2019s site) ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?bcgovtm=20230227_MMHA_IP_ASD__LEARN_ADW_BCGOV_EN_BC__TEXT&dir=faq&document=faqelec&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))\n\n---\n\nIf you like, I can try contacting or locating screen-reader accessible videos of the AVTD prototype (if any exist but aren\u2019t yet indexed). Would you prefer me to search specifically for those?"
    },
    {
        "role": "user",
        "content": "please%20give%20the%20URL%20for%20the%20meeting%20or%20wherever%20the%20feedback%20about%20problems%20with%20the%20app%20is%20listed."
    },
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        "role": "assistant",
        "content": "Here is a link to the **AGDI meeting summary** where Elections Canada gives updates on the AVTD (Assistive Voting Technology Development) project and where feedback from testers (including blind users) is recorded:\n\n**Meeting summary:** *Advisory Group for Disability Issues (AGDI) \u2013 Meeting Summary \u2013 September 10\u201311, 2025*  \nURL: https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2Fmtng&document=sep2025&lang=e&section=vot ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2Fmtng&document=sep2025&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))\n\n---\n\n### What you\u2019ll find there related to AVTD feedback\n\nIn that document, under **\u201cAssistive Voting Technology Development updates\u201d**, Elections Canada acknowledges several technical or usability issues that blind or visually impaired testers reported. These include:\n\n- Challenges with the device camera in reading a folded ballot. ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2Fmtng&document=sep2025&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))  \n- Suggestions from testers for ways to help people fold ballots more effectively (e.g. in-person demonstrations, audio instructions, physical folding templates at polling locations). ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2Fmtng&document=sep2025&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))  \n- Concern about long ballots with many candidates\u2014making navigation and comprehension harder for those using assistive technologies. ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2Fmtng&document=sep2025&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))  \n\n---\n\nIf you like, I can send you the entire relevant text from that section read aloud (via text) so you can review exactly what was said at the meeting."
    },
    {
        "role": "user",
        "content": "yes%20give%20the%20text%20of%20it."
    },
    {
        "role": "assistant",
        "content": "Here is the full text excerpt from the *\u201cAssistive Voting Technology Development updates\u201d* section of the AGDI meeting summary (September 10\u201311, 2025) where Elections Canada reports tester feedback, including issues with the AVTD prototype. ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2Fmtng&document=sep2025&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))\n\n---\n\n**Assistive Voting Technology Development updates**  \nPresenter: Danielle Duquette, Director, Alternative Voting Methods\n\n- Elections Canada is working with a private company to develop a mobile application to help voters verify the mark on their ballot independently. The app works by reading out the candidate names on the ballot and confirming the candidate selected by the voter. Elections Canada has engaged a user group of Blind Canadians who are testing the app as it is being developed. Danielle gave an update on the latest developments and some challenges with the camera reading folded ballots. Options for resolving the issue were presented. ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2Fmtng&document=sep2025&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))\n\n- During the question period, members discussed the options and gave various suggestions for instructing voters how to fold the ballot, such as an in-person folding demonstration before voting, an audio description of folding techniques or a folding template at the polling station. ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2Fmtng&document=sep2025&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))\n\n- Members expressed concerns about the trend of long ballots with many candidate names. It was also emphasized that cloud-based apps like *Be My Eyes* are not suitable for use by Elections Canada due to security concerns and the risk of compromising the independence of the vote. ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2Fmtng&document=sep2025&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))\n\n---\n\nIf you want, I can also get translations or universe versions of this for French, braille-friendly, or accessible audio formats."
    },
    {
        "role": "user",
        "content": "are%20there%20any%20excerpts%20you%20can%20give%20from%20other%20meetings%20or%20documents%20where%20feedback%20from%20the%20blind%20testing%20group%20is%20reported%3F"
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        "content": "Here are a few excerpts from **other meetings/documents** beyond the Sept 2025 AGDI summary, where feedback from blind or visually impaired people (or feedback relevant to those experiences) is presented. These sources show recurring issues around long ballots, folding ballots, usability of assistive tools, etc.\n\n---\n\n## Excerpts from other documents\n\n### From *Elections Canada\u2019s 2024 Accessibility Plan Progress Report*\n\n- **On long ballots**:  \n  \u201cOne participant who experienced the long ballot in their riding stated that the length of the ballot was an issue for some electors\u2026 The ballot was so long that to count the ballots, election workers needed to stand for long periods of time; in some cases, they stood for hours.\u201d ([elections.ca](https://elections.ca/content.aspx/res/rec/eval/40eval/www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2F2024&document=index&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))  \n  \u201cThe ballot was heavy and awkward to carry and fold, and some older election workers struggled with folding and carrying the ballots.\u201d ([elections.ca](https://elections.ca/content.aspx/res/rec/eval/40eval/www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2F2024&document=index&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))  \n  \u201cThe participant explained that the long ballot was difficult to read, and if electors were using the magnifying glass, it was difficult to position the ballot straight.\u201d ([elections.ca](https://elections.ca/content.aspx/res/rec/eval/40eval/www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2F2024&document=index&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))  \n\n- **About folding and accessibility generally**:  \n  \u201cSome electors had difficulty folding the ordinary-sized ballot.\u201d ([elections.ca](https://elections.ca/content.aspx/res/rec/eval/40eval/www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2F2024&document=index&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))  \n  \u201c\u2026explain how to fold the ballot so voters can do so properly and independently.\u201d (This was a theme in suggestions, though not always attributed to blind testers specifically.) ([elections.ca](https://elections.ca/content.aspx/res/rec/eval/40eval/www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2F2024&document=index&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))  \n\n---\n\n### From *Summary of Stakeholder Feedback \u2013 Battle River\u2013Crowfoot By-election Ballot Design Options*\n\n- Suggestions relevant to blind or visually impaired voters include:  \n  \u201cDeploy the use of assistive voting technology at the polls (AVTD application) to improve the secrecy and integrity of the vote for electors who are blind or visually impaired.\u201d ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=cons%2Frep%2Fbdo&document=p3&lang=e&section=res&utm_source=openai))  \n  \u201cA designated worker should be available at each polling station to assist electors with disabilities. When navigating a long and complex ballot, having a staff member assigned to help is essential.\u201d ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=cons%2Frep%2Fbdo&document=p3&lang=e&section=res&utm_source=openai))  \n  \u201cScreen readers should be allowed behind the voting screen for electors who are blind or visually impaired to read the list of candidates.\u201d ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=cons%2Frep%2Fbdo&document=p3&lang=e&section=res&utm_source=openai))  \n\n---\n\n## Key recurring issues / feedback themes\n\nFrom these plus the earlier AGDI summary, the following issues / suggestions recur often:\n\n- Long ballots are difficult: physically cumbersome, hard to carry/fold, heavy, difficult to read or position when using magnifiers.  \n- Folding ballots is a particular challenge: unclear how to fold, difficulties with folded ballots interfering with vision or image capture for assistive technology.  \n- Need for assistive tools (AVTD, screen readers, designated poll workers) to improve accessibility.  \n- Desire for clear instructions (audio, visual, in-person) on folding, handling ballots and using assistive tech.  \n\n---\n\nIf you want, I can try to pull up *verbatim feedback* specifically from test sessions with the AVTD app (rather than general ballot feedback), to see what users said word-for-word about the app itself."
    },
    {
        "role": "user",
        "content": "yes%20please"
    },
    {
        "role": "assistant",
        "content": "I searched extensively but wasn\u2019t able to locate any **verbatim feedback** specifically from recent AVTD prototype test sessions by blind or visually impaired participants beyond what was already documented in the 2025 AGDI summary. Here\u2019s a summary of what I found and what was *not* found:\n\n---\n\n### What I found\n\n- A pilot project in *Winnipeg North (2010)* involving an assistive voting device (AVD) includes some general feedback from electors, including that many needed assistance, that following instructions was difficult, and that it took about 10 minutes per elector to use the device. ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=rep%2Foth%2Favd&document=p7&lang=e&section=res&utm_source=openai))  \n- In Elections Canada\u2019s *Accessibility Plan 2025*, it states that during consultations \u201cElectors with visual disabilities identified\u201d the barrier that there is no way for them to independently verify that their ballots are marked properly. ([elections.ca](https://elections.ca/content.aspx?dir=spe%2Fa11ypln25&document=index&lang=e&section=vot&utm_source=openai))  \n- Other feedback more broadly related to accessibility (but *not specific to AVTD testing*) includes quotes from blind individuals about difficulties reading printed materials, not knowing polling information, and lack of materials in large print or Braille. ([aodaalliance.org](https://www.aodaalliance.org/whats-new/newsub2011/read-the-2nd-day-of-standing-committee-public-hearings-on-bill-231-on-march-31-2010/?utm_source=openai))  \n\n---\n\n### What I did **not** find\n\n- **Direct quotes** from blind or visually impaired users describing their experience using the current AVTD app (for example, \u201cI tried the camera, and it didn\u2019t detect my folded ballot\u201d).\n- **Feedback reports or transcripts** that reproduce test session dialogues (e.g. what users said while testing AVTD).\n- Updated or detailed review reports since 2025 that include verbatim user input for AVTD.\n\n---\n\nIf you like, I can attempt a further search (including older or non-governmental sources, or FOI-type summaries) specifically targeting raw user testimonies from recent AVTD tests, though it may be that Elections Canada has not yet published them in detail. Do you want me to look for that?"
    },
    {
        "role": "user",
        "content": "what%20can%20you%20tell%20me%20about%20the%20private%20company%20developing%20this%20app.%20has%20it%20ever%20developed%20disability%20related%20apps%20before%3F%20election%20related%20apps%3F%20is%20it%20big%20or%20small%3F%20what%20has%20it%20accomplished%20apart%20from%20this%20project%3F"
    },
    {
        "role": "assistant",
        "content": "Here\u2019s what I found about **Compusult Ltd.**, the company contracted by Elections Canada to develop the Assistive Voting Technology Development (AVTD) app. These details address its prior experience, size, and track record beyond the AVTD project.\n\n---\n\n## What is Compusult?\n\n- Compusult Ltd. is an Information Technology and Assistive Technology (AT) company based in Mount Pearl, Newfoundland and Labrador, Canada. ([compusult.com](https://www.compusult.com/elections-canada-full-press-release?utm_source=openai))  \n- The company was awarded a contract by Elections Canada under the AVTD project to develop a **native mobile application** that enables blind and visually impaired electors to independently and privately verify their ballot marks using their own mobile device. ([compusult.com](https://www.compusult.com/elections-canada-full-press-release?utm_source=openai))  \n\n---\n\n## Has it developed disability-related apps or assistive tech before?\n\nYes. Compusult has substantial prior experience in assistive and accessibility work:\n\n- It has more than **30 years of experience** specializing in Assistive Technology. ([compusult.com](https://www.compusult.com/elections-canada-full-press-release?utm_source=openai))  \n- Their scope includes creating products, services, and training to help people with disabilities participate more fully in various areas of life (work, education, social engagement). ([compusult.com](https://www.compusult.com/elections-canada-full-press-release?utm_source=openai))  \n- While I did *not* find public evidence that Compusult has developed **election-specific software** before the AVTD contract, they have frequently been involved in accessible technology broadly\u2014such as tools for reading, independence, and workplace accessibility. ([compusult.com](https://www.compusult.com/elections-canada-full-press-release?utm_source=openai))  \n\n---\n\n## Company size, capacity, and status\n\n- **Size / Scale**: As a specialized AT company headquartered in Newfoundland and Labrador, Compusult is not a giant multinational\u2014but neither is it a micro-startup. Thirty years in operation implies established infrastructure, staff, and domain expertise in assistive tech. ([compusult.com](https://www.compusult.com/elections-canada-full-press-release?utm_source=openai))  \n- **Nature of work**: They work on software and device-based assistive technology solutions, plus training and supportive services. ([compusult.com](https://www.compusult.com/elections-canada-full-press-release?utm_source=openai))  \n\n---\n\n## Achievements beyond the AVTD project\n\n- A deep product and service offering in accessibility: Compusult has delivered multiple AT solutions over its history (software and toolkits, training, support). ([compusult.com](https://www.compusult.com/elections-canada-full-press-release?utm_source=openai))  \n- Contracted by Elections Canada for the AVTD project, awarded on April 2, 2024, via a competitive procurement process. ([elections.ca](https://www.elections.ca/vot/spe/2024/a11y_plan_2024_e.pdf?utm_source=openai))  \n- Award value: in that procurement, the AVTD contract was valued at about **CAD $377,700** (for \"Independent Ballot Verification\"). This gives a sense of the budget for this particular project. ([proposalforge.io](https://proposalforge.io/canadian-awards/department/elections-canada?utm_source=openai))  \n\n---\n\nIf you want, I can dig up financial reports or statements to give you a snapshot of Compusult\u2019s size (number of employees, revenue) or also try to find *internal design documents* to see how their AT experience is influencing the AVTD app design."
    },
    {
        "role": "user",
        "content": "what%20other%20apps%20has%20it%20created%3F%20or%20other%20access%20technology%3F"
    },
    {
        "role": "assistant",
        "content": "Here are a number of other assistive technology products and solutions that Compusult has created, beyond the AVTD project. These include both hardware and software for accessibility, communication, computer access, and workplace accommodation.\n\n---\n\n## Assistive Technology & Accessibility Products by Compusult\n\n### Computer Access & Alternative Input\n\n- **Jouse3 / Jouse+ / JouseLite**  \n  Mouth-operated joysticks that allow cursor and switch control for users who can\u2019t use traditional mice or touchpads. ([compusultsystems.com](https://www.compusultsystems.com/assistive-technology-solutions/?utm_source=openai))  \n  - *Jouse3* is the standard mouth-operated device with sip/puff switches. ([compusultsystems.com](https://www.compusultsystems.com/assistive-technology-solutions/?utm_source=openai))  \n  - *Jouse+* includes additional modes (Gaming Mode, Alternative Mouse Mode, Middle Mouse Button Mode) and enhanced external device control. ([compusultsystems.com](https://www.compusultsystems.com/assistive-technology-solutions/?utm_source=openai))  \n  - *JouseLite* is a lighter, more compact version with similar functionality. ([compusultsystems.com](https://www.compusultsystems.com/assistive-technology-solutions/?utm_source=openai))\n\n- **Scotty Wheelchair Tray Systems**  \n  Attachment hardware to mount communication devices, reading material, tablets, or laptops to wheelchairs. Customizable system designs. ([compusultsystems.com](https://www.compusultsystems.com/assistive-technology-solutions/?utm_source=openai))\n\n---\n\n### Communication / Augmentative & Alternative Communication (AAC)\n\n- **Outspoken Communicator Mobile System**  \n  Bundled solution (iPad or selected Android device) with preloaded AAC software and accessories like cases, speaker, stylus. ([compusult.com](https://www.compusult.com/assistive-technology-solutions?utm_source=openai))  \n  Supports a range of AAC applications based on user need, including options like Proloquo2Go, Predictable, TouchChat, Assistive Express, etc. ([compusultsystems.com](https://www.compusultsystems.com/assistive-technology-solutions/?utm_source=openai))  \n\n---\n\n### Visual & Auditory Accessibility\n\n- **Magnification Devices & Screen Magnifiers**  \n  For users with low vision: tools for magnifying text and improving contrast; portable devices for reading hardcopy materials; software magnifiers for computer screens. ([compusult.com](https://www.compusult.com/assistive-technology-solutions?utm_source=openai))  \n\n- **Responder / Vindicator**  \n  - *Responder*: Monitors electronic equipment and provides speech output to notify visually impaired employees about events. ([compusult.com](https://www.compusult.com/assistive-technology-solutions?utm_source=openai))  \n  - *Vindicator*: Uses optical and electrical sensors to detect on/off events and provide notifications to visually or hearing impaired users. ([compusult.com](https://www.compusult.com/assistive-technology-solutions?utm_source=openai))\n\n- **Closed Caption Display Systems**  \n  LED boards that extract closed captioning from video sources and display them in a large format. Helpful for loud or large public venues, exhibitions, etc. ([compusultsystems.com](https://www.compusultsystems.com/assistive-technology-solutions/?utm_source=openai))  \n\n---\n\n### Workplace Adaptation & Accessories\n\n- **Switch Control Boxes**  \n  Hardware allowing alternate input control using switches, for individuals with limited mobility. ([compusult.com](https://www.compusult.com/web/at/product-catalog?utm_source=openai))  \n\n- **Tray Systems, Protective Cases, Stylus, Accessories**  \n  Tools to help people use devices in adapted ways\u2014tray systems (like Scotty), cases for iPads (EVA2/EVA3), protective and ergonomic accessories. ([compusult.com](https://www.compusult.com/assistive-technology-solutions?utm_source=openai))  \n\n---\n\n## Other Key Products / Systems (Non-Disability Specific, but Relevant Tech Strengths)\n\n- **Geospatial & Data Systems**\n\n  - *Web Enterprise Suite (WES)*: A full platform for managing, discovering, and distributing geospatial data. ([compusult.com](https://www.compusult.com/corporate-profile?utm_source=openai))  \n  - *GO Mobile*: Mobile geospatial data collection and situational awareness tool for field workers, surveyors, first responders. Operates even without network connectivity. ([compusultsystems.com](https://www.compusultsystems.com/products/?utm_source=openai))  \n  - *SensorHub*: System for integrating data from IoT sensors (cameras, environmental sensors etc.), used for alerts, task-chains, situational awareness. ([compusult.com](https://www.compusult.com/?utm_source=openai))  \n\n- **Asset Tracking and Inventory Systems**\n\n  - *FasseTrack*: Asset tracking software with barcode / RFID support, for organizations managing large volumes of physical assets. ([compusultsystems.com](https://www.compusultsystems.com/products/?utm_source=openai))  \n\n- **Meta Manager, WES Catalog**  \n  Tools for metadata management, discovery, and publishing of data holdings. These serve data-heavy or geo-data-oriented organizations. ([compusultsystems.com](https://www.compusultsystems.com/products/?utm_source=openai))  \n\n---\n\nIf you like, I can cross-reference user reviews or academic studies to see how well some of these tools work in practice (for example, Jouse3 or the AAC bundles), especially among people with visual or mobility impairments. Would that be useful?"
    },
    {
        "role": "user",
        "content": "did%20they%20invent%20any%20of%20those%20products%20or%20do%20they%20just%20market%20them%3F"
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        "content": "Here\u2019s what I found about whether Compusult **invented** the assistive tech products in its catalog (vs. just marketing or distributing them), based on official sources and histories:\n\n---\n\n## What they invented / developed themselves\n\n1. **Jouse / Jouse2 / Jouse3**  \n   The original *Jouse* mouth-operated pointing device was developed by the Neil Squire Society (a nonprofit in British Columbia). Compusult licensed the technology and manufactures/distributes it in North America. ([neilsquire.ca](https://www.neilsquire.ca/research-development/projects-activities/jouse/?utm_source=openai))  \n   Compusult has also created enhancements: Jouse2, Jouse3, Jouse+, and JouseLite. These versions include their own designs for joystick hardware, mouthpieces, sip/puff sensors, mount systems, USB interface, etc. For example, the \u201cnew Jouse3\u201d is clearly attributed to Compusult with its specific USB-plug-and-play electronics, mounting arm, etc. ([compusult.com](https://www.compusult.com/documents/10182/54296/07_Compusult_USBox_Product_Brochure_%2B2016.pdf/8ef4f5ab-a33c-4807-be1c-703d619b6ddc?utm_source=openai))  \n\n2. **Assistive hardware like Scotty Wheelchair Tray Systems, Responder, Vindicator**  \n   Compusult designs and sells these under its own brand, suggesting in-house development. For example, the Responder (speech output notifications when electronic equipment does something) and Vindicator (optical/electrical sensors to detect on/off events, etc.) are described as \u201csolutions\u201d developed by Compusult. ([compusult.com](https://www.compusult.com/assistive-technology-solutions?utm_source=openai))  \n\n3. **Closed Caption Display Systems**  \n   These are designed and built by Compusult: products that extract closed caption data (Line-21 or EIA-608B) and display it on LED boards using their own Caption Display software. ([compusultsystems.com](https://www.compusultsystems.com/assistive-technology-solutions/?utm_source=openai))  \n\n4. **Assistive Software / AT Bundles**  \n   Compusult offers bundled configuration of communication or education tools (Proloquo2Go, Predictable, etc.) with appropriate hardware and accessories. Some of those software tools they *package*, but the hardware and integration (protective cases, stylus, etc.) are their own. ([compusultsystems.com](https://www.compusultsystems.com/assistive-technology-solutions/?utm_source=openai))  \n\n---\n\n## What they receive or market from others\n\n- The **original concept** of the Jouse device was invented by the Neil Squire Society; Compusult did *not* originate that but licensed it. ([neilsquire.ca](https://www.neilsquire.ca/research-development/projects-activities/jouse/?utm_source=openai))  \n- Some of the software apps included in their bundles (e.g. Proloquo2Go, Predictable, Assistive Express, etc.) are third-party products; Compusult includes them in its bundles but does not own their development. ([compusultsystems.com](https://www.compusultsystems.com/assistive-technology-solutions/?utm_source=openai))  \n\n---\n\n## Mixed / unclear cases\n\n- For certain product versions, it\u2019s not always explicit whether the electronics or firmware is fully designed by Compusult, or whether parts (motor, sip/puff sensors, etc.) are off-the-shelf. Given the detailed user manuals for Jouse3 showing hardware details, mounting arms, USB controller, etc., Compusult appears to have done substantial engineering in those. ([compusult.com](https://www.compusult.com/documents/10182/54296/07_Compusult_USBox_Product_Brochure_%2B2016.pdf/8ef4f5ab-a33c-4807-be1c-703d619b6ddc?utm_source=openai))  \n- Older listings indicate \u201cmarkets its own and value-added computer software and systems,\u201d suggesting some combination of in-house development and resale of third-party products. ([publications.gc.ca](https://publications.gc.ca/collections/collection_2023/isde-ised/Iu44-251-1995-eng.pdf?utm_source=openai))  \n\n---\n\n## Summary\n\n- Yes, Compusult has invented or substantially contributed to the design of many assistive tech products (especially hardware and system integration).  \n- It also licenses and bundles third-party software, which it markets as part of its solutions.  \n- The company is not simply a reseller\u2014it does engineering, manufacturing, customization, and integration for many of the devices in its catalog.\n\nIf you want, I can try to find specific patents registered to Compusult (especially for technologies like Jouse+ or the Responder/Vindicator) to see exactly what IP they own."
    }
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