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        "content": "I was unable to locate any published HRTO decisions *after* 2007 that clearly cite either **Ontario Human Rights Commission v. Toronto Transit Commission (2005 HRTO 36)** or **Lepofsky v. Toronto Transit Commission (2007 HRTO 41 / 2007 HRTO 23)** and treat the holdings of those cases in detail (in the sense of applying their principles, distinguishing them, or extending them in new fact\u2010scenarios).  \n\nHere\u2019s a summary of what *is* known\u2014what subsequent references and uses there are, and what decisions *do* explicitly quote or mention Lepofsky / the 2005 TTC case. Also the text of those references.\n\n---\n\n### Subsequent Cases that *Cite* Lepofsky or the 2005 TTC Case\n\n1. **Jahn \u2013 OHRC Motion re Non-Compliance (HRTO file 2017-29710-S)**  \n   - This is a motion filed in 2018/legal-2019 related to compliance with prior orders. The motion cites *Lepofsky v. Toronto Transit Commission, 2005 HRTO 21* (\u201cLepofsky 2005\u201d) and *Lepofsky v. TTC 2007* in discussing the Tribunal\u2019s approach to systemic remedies and independent monitoring. ([www3.ohrc.on.ca](https://www3.ohrc.on.ca/sites/default/files/Jahn%20-%20OHRC%20Motion%20re%20Non-Compliance%20Accessible.pdf?utm_source=openai))  \n   - The decision text says:  \n     > \u201cIn its Lepofsky v Toronto Transit Commission decisions, the Tribunal also appointed an independent monitor to oversee the implementation of its orders and provide ongoing reporting to the Tribunal, at the Toronto Transit Commission\u2019s expense.\u201d ([www3.ohrc.on.ca](https://www3.ohrc.on.ca/sites/default/files/Jahn%20-%20OHRC%20Motion%20re%20Non-Compliance%20Accessible.pdf?utm_source=openai))  \n   - So here, the *2005 HRTO 21* interim order from the first Lepofsky case is relied on to illustrate the Tribunal\u2019s practice of appointing a monitor in systemic remedy cases. *Note:* this is not a decision at the merits stage applying the stop-announcement duty to a new transit agency, but rather compliance / enforcement references.\n\n2. **Background / Commission Reports, Not HRTO Decisions**  \n   - Reports by the Ontario Human Rights Commission (OHRC) titled *\u201cBackground: Accessible transit and stop announcements\u201d* and *\u201cTransit stop announcements inquiry\u201d* refer to both Lepofsky decisions (2005 & 2007). They cite the 2005 HRTO decision *Ontario Human Rights Commission v. Toronto Transit Commission, 2005 HRTO 36* and Lepofsky 2007 HRTO 23 / 41 in describing the development of obligations for transit agencies to announce stops, the duty to accommodate, and as precedent for what level of service transit providers must adopt. ([www3.ohrc.on.ca](https://www3.ohrc.on.ca/en/next-stop-accessibility-report-public-transit-stop-announcements-ontario/background-accessible?utm_source=openai))  \n   - For example:  \n     > \u201cThis decision was made despite \u2026 that TTC would be bound by any forthcoming standards under the AODA \u2026 followed a 2005 HRTO ruling in a similar case relating to the duty to accommodate visually impaired riders by announcing subway stops (see Ontario Human Rights Commission v. Toronto Transit Commission, 2005 HRTO 36 \u2026).\u201d ([www3.ohrc.on.ca](https://www3.ohrc.on.ca/en/next-stop-accessibility-report-public-transit-stop-announcements-ontario/background-accessible?utm_source=openai))\n\n3. **\u201cKeeping Tabs on Transit\u201d \u2013 Annual Report 2008-2009 (OHRC)**  \n   - The OHRC reports that by October 2008, all 38 of Ontario\u2019s public transit providers had committed to announcing all stops by the end of 2008. This reflects the HRTO decision in *Lepofsky v. TTC*, where the Tribunal gave the TTC 30 days to begin announcing all stops. ([ohrc.on.ca](https://www.ohrc.on.ca/en/annual-report-2008-2009/keeping-tabs-transit?utm_source=openai))\n\n---\n\n### What Those Decisions/References *Say* About the Two Cases\n\nHere are the relevant excerpts, along with explanation of how each is used:\n\n| Reference / Decision | Text Quoting or Summing Up Lepofsky / 2005 TTC Case | Purpose / How It Uses the Case |\n|---|---|---|\n| **Jahn \u2013 OHRC Motion re Non-Compliance** | \u201cIn its **Lepofsky v Toronto Transit Commission** decisions, the Tribunal also appointed an independent monitor to oversee the implementation of its orders and provide ongoing reporting \u2026\u201d ([www3.ohrc.on.ca](https://www3.ohrc.on.ca/sites/default/files/Jahn%20-%20OHRC%20Motion%20re%20Non-Compliance%20Accessible.pdf?utm_source=openai)) | To illustrate Tribunal\u2019s practice in systemic remedy cases; showing the remedy of independent monitoring was used in the Lepofsky cases. |\n| **OHRC Background Report (Stop Announcements)** | \u201cThis decision followed a **2005 HRTO ruling in a similar case relating to the duty to accommodate visually impaired riders by announcing subway stops (see Ontario Human Rights Commission v. Toronto Transit Commission, 2005 HRTO 36 \u2026).\u201d ([www3.ohrc.on.ca](https://www3.ohrc.on.ca/en/next-stop-accessibility-report-public-transit-stop-announcements-ontario/background-accessible?utm_source=openai)) | To show that the duty to accommodate visually impaired riders by announcing stops had precedent in 2005 and that the 2007 decision builds on that earlier case. |\n| **OHRC Transit Stop Announcements Inquiry** | \u201cBy meeting the level of service set out in **Lepofsky**, transit services can ensure that persons with visual disabilities have greater, more consistent and more dignified access \u2026\u201d ([ohrc.on.ca](https://www.ohrc.on.ca/en/next-stop-accessibility-report-public-transit-stop-announcements-ontario/transit-stop-announcements?utm_source=openai)) | Used to urge transit agencies to follow the standard set in Lepofsky\u2014that is, to consistently announce stops. |\n| **OHRC \u201cKeeping Tabs on Transit\u201d report** | \u201cThis request \u2026 reflected the Human Rights Tribunal of Ontario decision in **Lepofsky v. TTC**, in which the transit provider was given 30 days to begin announcing all stops on all transit routes.\u201d ([ohrc.on.ca](https://www.ohrc.on.ca/en/annual-report-2008-2009/keeping-tabs-transit?utm_source=openai)) | Reporting on compliance with Lepofsky\u2019s remedy, showing its binding / persuasive force in driving provincial practice. |\n\n---\n\n### Why There Appear to Be Few New Cases Applying the Holding\n\n- After 2007, Lepofsky set a clear standard on stop announcements. Many transit agencies across Ontario adopted policies and practices in response. The issue seems to have shifted from litigation to implementation and compliance, and less often to new HRTO cases raising identical factual settings.\n\n- Most references post-2007 are policy or compliance reports, not new HRTO decisions re-litigating stop announcements from scratch.\n\n- The HRTO itself seems to have cited Lepofsky notably in decisions about compliance, monitoring, and systemic remedies, rather than fresh merits decisions.\n\n---\n\nIf you like, I can try digging in deeper\u2014searching CanLII for all HRTO decisions from, say, 2008-2026 that cite either *2005 HRTO 36* or *2007 HRTO 41/23*\u2014and see if any have published reasons applying or distinguishing them. Do you want me to locate those, and send you the full text extracts?"
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        "content": "I searched across Canadian human rights tribunals and courts outside Ontario for decisions that cite either of the two *Lepofsky v. TTC* cases (2005 and 2007). The result is that I found very little evidence of other tribunals or higher courts applying or treating these cases in detail, beyond academic, policy, or advocacy citations. Below is a summary of what *is* known, along with the excerpted text, and then the conclusion.\n\n---\n\n## Findings: Other Canadian Tribunals and Courts\n\n1. **Canadian Human Rights Tribunal (CHRT) / Academic / Scholarly References**  \n   - In an academic article in *Canadian Journal of Human Rights* (2017), *Lepofsky v. Toronto Transit Commission, 2007 HRTO 23* is cited alongside other cases about systemic remedies. The article states:  \n     > \u201cPreventing recurrence was the approach taken by the Canadian Human Rights Tribunal in its 2010 decision in *Hughes v. Canada (Elections Canada)* \u2026 Other useful examples of systemic remedies can be found in *Radek v Henderson Development (Canada) Ltd* and *Lepofsky v Toronto Transit Commission*. These complaints involved discrimination on the basis of indigeneity and disability by security officers in a mall, and discrimination against blind transit users. In both cases, the tribunals ordered remedies that required new policies and practices, re-training of personnel and supervision of the implementation of remedies.\u201d ([canlii.org](https://www.canlii.org/w/canlii/2017CanLIIDocs45.pdf?utm_source=openai))  \n   - This use is scholarly / comparative: it is not a decision by another tribunal applying *Lepofsky* in a binding or determinative way, but rather using it as an illustrative example of systemic remedies in human rights law.\n\n2. **Policy / Commission Reports and Inquiries**  \n   - The Ontario Human Rights Commission\u2019s policy and reports refer frequently to *Lepofsky* (2005 & 2007) when discussing transit stop announcements, duty to accommodate, and setting accessibility standards. However, these are not tribunal or court decisions of other jurisdictions; rather, they are internal/provincial policy documents. ([ohrc.on.ca](https://www.ohrc.on.ca/en/next-stop-accessibility-report-public-transit-stop-announcements-ontario/background-accessible?utm_source=openai))\n\n3. **Alberta and Other Human Rights Tribunals**  \n   - I did *not* find any publicly posted decisions from the Alberta Human Rights Tribunal (or Commission) that expressly cite either *Lepofsky v. TTC* case in their reasoned decisions. Searches of Alberta\u2019s tribunal decision database did not reveal use of *Lepofsky* as precedent. ([albertahumanrights.ab.ca](https://www.albertahumanrights.ab.ca/what-are-human-rights/about-the-commission/human-rights-decisions/?utm_source=openai))  \n   - I did not find evidence that the British Columbia Human Rights Tribunal or others have formally applied or distinguished the *Lepofsky* cases (2005 / 2007) in their decisions.\n\n4. **Courts / Courts of Appeal / Superior Courts**  \n   - I found no reported case of a court (e.g., Ontario Superior Court, Court of Appeal, or other provincial appellate court) that has cited *Lepofsky v. TTC* as binding precedent in their judgments.  \n   - The *reference guide for Ontario Court of Appeal* and listings of frequently cited civil authorities do not include *Lepofsky* among commonly-used precedents in court decisions. ([ontariocourts.ca](https://www.ontariocourts.ca/coa/how-to-proceed-court/practice-directions-guidelines/reference-guide-citation/?utm_source=openai))\n\n---\n\n## Excerpts of What Other Sources Say About Lepofsky\n\nHere are relevant quotations from non-HRTO decisions or policy/academic sources that mention *Lepofsky*, with relevant context:\n\n- From the *Canadian Journal of Human Rights* article (2017):  \n  > \u201cOther useful examples of systemic remedies can be found in *Radek v Henderson Development (Canada) Ltd* and *Lepofsky v Toronto Transit Commission*. These complaints involved discrimination on the basis of indigeneity and disability by security officers in a mall, and discrimination against blind transit users. In both cases, the tribunals ordered remedies that required new policies and practices, re-training of personnel and supervision of the implementation of remedies.\u201d ([canlii.org](https://www.canlii.org/w/canlii/2017CanLIIDocs45.pdf?utm_source=openai))\n\n- From the Ontario Human Rights Commission\u2019s background / policy materials:  \n  > \u201cIn July 2007 \u2026 the Tribunal \u2026 found that the failure of the Toronto Transit Commission \u2026 to ensure announcement of all stops on buses and streetcars violated the human rights of persons with disabilities. In particular, the Tribunal found that the TTC failed to establish that alleged risks \u2026 would amount to undue hardship \u2026\u201d ([ohrc.on.ca](https://www.ohrc.on.ca/en/next-stop-accessibility-report-public-transit-stop-announcements-ontario/background-accessible?utm_source=openai))  \n  > Also, \u201cBy meeting the level of service set out in *Lepofsky*, transit services can ensure \u2026 persons with visual disabilities have greater \u2026 access \u2026\u201d ([ohrc.on.ca](https://www.ohrc.on.ca/en/next-stop-accessibility-report-public-transit-stop-announcements-ontario/transit-stop-announcements?utm_source=openai))\n\nThese, however, are not from other tribunals or courts rendering decisions applying *Lepofsky*, but from policy documents, academic commentary, or governmental reports.\n\n---\n\n## Summary and Conclusion\n\n- **No other Canadian human rights tribunal** that I found seems to have applied *Lepofsky v. TTC* (2005 or 2007) in a binding decision in a different province or under federal jurisdiction\u2014at least, not one that is publicly reported or easily located.\n\n- **No other courts** (Superior Court, Court of Appeal, or higher) have, in reported decisions, cited *Lepofsky v. TTC* as precedent, nor explicitly analyzed its holdings in their judgments, from what is publicly available.\n\n- The primary use of *Lepofsky* outside Ontario\u2019s HRTO is in **academic / policy** contexts: as a leading example of systemic remedies in human rights law, especially regarding accommodation for disabilities and accessible transit.\n\n- Where *Lepofsky* is cited, the citations typically extract or summarize these points:\n  1. The obligation of transit providers (or analogous service providers) to accommodate disabilities by making all stops audible;\n  2. The standard that \u201cundue hardship\u201d must be clearly demonstrated, and in the TTC\u2019s case was rejected in favour of adopting announcements because the burden was relatively small;\n  3. That systemic remedies, monitoring, policy changes, and re-training are appropriate remedial tools;\n  4. The significance of interim accommodation where full automated systems are delayed.\n\n---\n\nIf you like, I can try doing a more exhaustive CanLII search for *all* jurisdictions up to 2026 to see if there are *hidden / unreported* tribunal decisions citing *Lepofsky*, and send you summaries of any that I find (including any that might be dissenting or distinguishing). Do you want me to do that?"
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