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    {
        "role": "user",
        "content": "the%20forsa%20union%20how%20much%20money%20do%20they%20take%20in%20a%20week%20or%20a%20month%20are%20there%20any%20rough%20figures"
    },
    {
        "role": "assistant",
        "content": "If by \u201cthe Forsa union\u201d you mean **F\u00f3rsa**, the Irish public service trade union, here are some rough figures about how much money the union collects from members via subscriptions (dues), based on its most recent reports.  \n\n---\n\n### What do members pay?\n\n- The **standard subscription rate** is **0.8%** of basic salary, subject to a **ceiling** on how much that amounts to annually. ([forsatradeunion.newsweaver.com](https://forsatradeunion.newsweaver.com/icfiles/1/63805/123625/5801992/5793b59ec3964af36ed5cf1d/infobooklet_final.pdf?utm_source=openai))  \n- For 2023, that **ceiling was \u20ac425.30** annually (i.e. once your salary exceeds a certain level, you won't pay more than this amount) ([forsa.ie](https://www.forsa.ie/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/Forsa-biennial-report-2022_2024.pdf?utm_source=openai))  \n- Some categories of members (like clerical civil service grades) pay a higher rate (1%) or have \u201clegacy rates\u201d from before the three unions merged in 2018 ([forsa.ie](https://www.forsa.ie/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/Fo%CC%81rsaBiennialReport2020.pdf?utm_source=openai))  \n\n---\n\n### How many members and how much revenue per year\n\n- F\u00f3rsa represents around **100,000 members** working across many sectors (public service, state agencies, private sector where applicable) ([forsa.ie](https://www.forsa.ie/about-forsa/?utm_source=openai))  \n- In **2019**, gross subscription income (before certain deductions and transfers) was about **\u20ac22.39 million**, up from about **\u20ac21.68 million** in 2018 ([forsa.ie](https://www.forsa.ie/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/AAAAA-Financial-Report-BDC-2020-Final-Version.pdf?utm_source=openai))  \n\n---\n\n### Rough math: how much they take in a week or a month\n\nUsing these numbers, we can estimate:\n\n- \u20ac22.39 million a year \u2248 **\u20ac1.87 million per month**  \n- That\u2019s \u2248 **\u20ac432,000 per week** (assuming 52 weeks in a year)  \n\n---\n\n### Caveats and additional contributors\n\n- These figures are **subscription income only** (i.e. regular dues from members) \u2014 they **don\u2019t include donations, strike pay, other benefits that members might pay into**, or non-recurring funds. ([forsa.ie](https://www.forsa.ie/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/AAAAA-Financial-Report-BDC-2020-Final-Version.pdf?utm_source=openai))  \n- \u201cNet\u201d subscription income (after things like branch transfers, levies, etc.) will be somewhat less than the gross figures. ([forsa.ie](https://www.forsa.ie/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/AAAAA-Financial-Report-BDC-2020-Final-Version.pdf?utm_source=openai))  \n\n---\n\nIf you were referring to a different \u201cForsa union\u201d (for example, in another country), let me know and I can try to find equivalent numbers for that one too!"
    }
]