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        "content": "what%20was%20Jinger%20Baker%27s%20cymbal%20set%20up%20when%20he%20was%20with%20cream%20in%20the%201960s"
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        "content": "Here\u2019s a detailed breakdown of Ginger Baker\u2019s cymbal setup during his Cream period in the 1960s, based on historical sources and his own equipment listings:\n\n---\n\n### Cymbal Brand & General Notes\n- All of Ginger Baker\u2019s cymbals were from Zildjian. ([gingerbaker.com](https://www.gingerbaker.com/gingerbakergear.htm?utm_source=openai))  \n- Two particularly consistent pieces throughout his Cream years (1966-1968) were his **22-inch rivet ride** cymbal and his **14-inch hi-hats**. He used these same cymbals from the Cream tours in 1968 through to 2019. ([gingerbaker.com](https://www.gingerbaker.com/gingerbakergear.htm?utm_source=openai))  \n\n---\n\n### Cymbal Sizes & Types He Used With Cream\n\nFrom Ginger\u2019s own gear listings and interviews, the setup during the Cream era included multiple crashes, splashes, ride/rivet cymbals. Here are the cymbals identified:\n\n- 14-inch hi-hats (left) \u2013 his standard hihat cymbals, present throughout Cream. ([gingerbaker.com](https://www.gingerbaker.com/gingerbakergear.htm?utm_source=openai))  \n- 22-inch ride cymbal (with rivets) \u2013 used as a rivet ride. This was part of his live cymbal setup in Cream tours. ([gingerbaker.com](https://www.gingerbaker.com/gingerbakergear.htm?utm_source=openai))  \n- Several crash cymbals:\n  - 17-inch crash (left upper) ([gingerbaker.com](https://www.gingerbaker.com/gingerbakergear.htm?utm_source=openai))  \n  - 16-inch crash (left lower) ([gingerbaker.com](https://www.gingerbaker.com/gingerbakergear.htm?utm_source=openai))  \n  - 16-inch crash (right front lower) ([gingerbaker.com](https://www.gingerbaker.com/gingerbakergear.htm?utm_source=openai))  \n  - 18-inch crash (right back lower) ([gingerbaker.com](https://www.gingerbaker.com/gingerbakergear.htm?utm_source=openai))  \n- One \u201ceffect\u201d cymbal or splash type: an 8-inch splash (\u201cjoke effect\u201d) located right of the middle of the kit. ([gingerbaker.com](https://www.gingerbaker.com/gingerbakergear.htm?utm_source=openai))  \n\n---\n\n### Cymbal Stand Arrangement\n\n- Ginger tended to use fewer cymbal stands, often three, with smaller arms or clamp-type mountings rather than a completely separate stand for each cymbal. Some of his cymbals \u201ctree\u201d off others or mount via clamps. ([musicradar.com](https://www.musicradar.com/tuition/drums/how-to-sound-like-creams-ginger-baker-208186?utm_source=openai))  \n\n---\n\n### Summary of His Cream-Era Setup\n\nPutting it all together, Baker\u2019s cymbal configuration with Cream looked something like this:\n\n- Left side: 14\u2033 hi-hats  \n- Multiple crash cymbals on the left (16\u2033 & 17\u2033)  \n- Right side: at least one 22\u2033 rivet ride  \n- Additional crashes of varying sizes on right front and back (16\u2033, 18\u2033)  \n- An 8\u2033 splash (effect/special purpose)  \n\nIf you want, I can sketch a diagram showing approximate cymbal positions based on period photos, or list exact cymbal models (for example which line of Zildjian, K-series or A-series) if data is available."
    }
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