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    {
        "role": "user",
        "content": "is%20this%20cd%20a%20live%20recording%3F%20if%20yes%20or%20no%2C%20did%20they%20make%20a%20studio%20version%3F%20https%3A%2F%2Fwww.warnerclassics.com%2Frelease%2Fhandel-messiah-8"
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        "role": "assistant",
        "content": "Yes\u2014it *is* a live recording. The Handel: Messiah by John Nelson & The English Concert was recorded live at **Coventry Cathedral** in England on November 24, 2022. ([mezzo.tv](https://www.mezzo.tv/en/Classical/Handel%27s-Messiah-at-the-Coventry-Cathedral-10193?utm_source=openai))\n\nHere are some details:\n\n- Audio on the 2 CDs and video on a DVD captures that concert performance. ([warnerclassics.com](https://www.warnerclassics.com/release/handel-messiah-8))  \n- The recording was done over **23\u201325 November 2022** in New St Michael\u2019s Cathedral, Coventry\u2014matching the dates around the live event. ([warnerclassics.com](https://www.warnerclassics.com/sites/default/files/2023-11/5054197741685%20Handel_Messiah_John_Nelson.pdf?utm_source=openai))\n\n---\n\nAs for whether there\u2019s a separate *studio version*:\n\n- I did not find any evidence that this specific performance was duplicated later in a studio setting. All available sources indicate that this release is the live concert recording. ([knightclassical.com](https://knightclassical.com/john-nelson-handels-messiah-coventry-cathedral?utm_source=openai))  \n- No mention of a studio recording of this exact combination of performers & conductor exists in the material I checked. If one existed, it seems not to be public or promoted.  \n\n---\n\nIf you like, I can look to see whether John Nelson or the ensemble ever recorded *this version* of Messiah (same edition, soloists, etc.) in a studio. Do you want me to check?"
    },
    {
        "role": "user",
        "content": "yes"
    },
    {
        "role": "assistant",
        "content": "I searched through recent sources and discographies \u2014 I did *not* find evidence that John Nelson & The English Concert\u2019s 2022-23 Messiah performance (recorded live in Coventry Cathedral) was also recorded later in a *studio* version with the same cast.\n\nHere\u2019s a breakdown of what I discovered:\n\n---\n\n## What I confirmed\n\n- The *Handel: Messiah* release by John Nelson & The English Concert was recorded **live** at Coventry, November 2022 (23-25 November) at New St Michael\u2019s Cathedral. ([opusklassiek.nl](https://www.opusklassiek.nl/cd-recensies/cd-aw/haendel60.htm?utm_source=openai))  \n- The release includes both a **two-CD** audio set and a **DVD video** of that live concert. ([warnerclassics.com](https://www.warnerclassics.com/release/handel-messiah-8?utm_source=openai))  \n- The booklet and promotional material clearly describe it as a \u201clive recording\u201d. ([musicwebinternational.com](https://musicwebinternational.com/2024/03/handel-messiah-erato/?utm_source=openai))  \n\n---\n\n## What I *didn\u2019t* find\n\n- No indication in major reviews, discographies, or the ensemble\u2019s official pages that the same performance was redone in a studio with this exact lineup. ([englishconcert.co.uk](https://englishconcert.co.uk/recordings/handel-messiah/?utm_source=openai))  \n- Nothing suggests that the live recording has been reinterpreted or replaced by a studio version for this specific Messiah. ([prestomusic.com](https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/articles/5690--recording-of-the-week-handels-messiah-from-john-nelson?utm_source=openai))  \n\n---\n\nIf you want, I can look up whether *John Nelson* in general has done a studio recording of *Messiah* (with a different cast or ensemble). Would you prefer that?"
    },
    {
        "role": "user",
        "content": "what%20choir%20does%20John%20Nelson%20normally%20conduct"
    },
    {
        "role": "assistant",
        "content": "John Nelson was most closely associated with two major choirs through his career:\n\n- The English Concert Choir \u2014 with which he recorded *Messiah* on the \u201cHandel: Messiah / John Nelson\u201d release. ([en.wikipedia.org](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Nelson_%28conductor%29?utm_source=openai))  \n- The English Concert \u2014 an orchestra that frequently performs with their own choir or designated chorus when doing choral-orchestral works like Messiah. ([en.wikipedia.org](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Nelson_%28conductor%29?utm_source=openai))  \n\nThese are the ensembles he \u201cnormally\u201d worked with for his large-scale sacred choral works, especially later in his career."
    },
    {
        "role": "user",
        "content": "did%20he%20record%20any%20portion%20of%20messiah%20with%20The%20English%20Concert%20-%20an%20orchestra%20that%20frequently%20performs%20with%20their%20own%20choir"
    },
    {
        "role": "assistant",
        "content": "Yes \u2014 John Nelson *has* recorded *portions* of Handel\u2019s **Messiah** with The English Concert (and The English Concert Choir) in studio or album\u2010format settings, not only in the full concert/live version. Here's what I found:\n\n---\n\n## Recorded Portions of *Messiah* with The English Concert\n\n- The album *Handel: Messiah, HWV 56* by John Nelson and The English Concert includes individual tracks (arias, choruses) such as:\n  - \u201cBut Who May Abide the Day of His Coming?\u201d (Aria, Part I), with Alex Potter as soloist. ([music.apple.com](https://music.apple.com/us/song/1711060855?utm_source=openai))  \n  - \u201cIf God Be for Us\u201d (Aria, Part III), with Lucy Crowe. ([music.apple.com](https://music.apple.com/us/song/1711063828?utm_source=openai))  \n  - \u201cThe Trumpet Shall Sound,\u201d featuring Matthew Brook. ([music.amazon.com](https://music.amazon.com/tracks/B0CKQ711PM?utm_source=openai))  \n\n- These tracks come from the 2022 live concert recordings in Coventry Cathedral; however, when released as an album, individual tracks are separated out, which makes those individual portions available for focused listening independent of the full live performance. ([classical.music.apple.com](https://classical.music.apple.com/us/album/1711060241?utm_source=openai))\n\n---\n\n## Clarification: \u201cStudio vs. Live Portions\u201d\n\n- Although the *album* makes individual arias and choruses available as standalone tracks, the *recording source* for those tracks is the **live concert** performance in Coventry (November 2022), not a dedicated studio session. ([musicwebinternational.com](https://musicwebinternational.com/2024/03/handel-messiah-erato/?utm_source=openai))  \n- I found no evidence that those arias or choruses were re-recorded in a studio setting with The English Concert for a separate release. All available versions of the individual tracks appear to come from that concert.  \n\n---\n\nIf you\u2019d like, I can check older recordings (pre-2022) to see if John Nelson & The English Concert ever recorded any *portion* of *Messiah* in the studio at an earlier date. Do you want me to gather that older material as well?"
    },
    {
        "role": "user",
        "content": "is%20there%20any%20different%20mastering%20or%20sound%20quality%20to%20the%20ones%20selected%20for%20the%20cd%20you%20mention%20tht%20contains%20parts%20of%20the%20live%20convert"
    },
    {
        "role": "assistant",
        "content": "I searched reviews and technical notes for the John Nelson / The English Concert *Messiah* live recording to see whether any alternate mastering or \u201csuperior\u201d sound\u2010quality versions (versus the standard CD) exist. Here\u2019s the summary of what I found:\n\n---\n\n## Sound Quality in the Live CD Release\n\n- A review on Presto Music comments that the *live* recording in Coventry Cathedral has \u201cclarity of the sound [that] is quite exceptional,\u201d with no sense of \u201csoupiness or blurred lines\u201d despite the challenging acoustic space. ([prestomusic.com](https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/articles/5690--recording-of-the-week-handels-messiah-from-john-nelson?utm_source=openai))  \n- The review also remarks on \u201ccrisp but unmannered diction,\u201d especially in the choir, which suggests high production values and clear audio engineering. ([prestomusic.com](https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/articles/5690--recording-of-the-week-handels-messiah-from-john-nelson?utm_source=openai))  \n- The formats available are 2 CDs + DVD video + high-resolution digital (FLAC/ALAC/WAV etc.), as per Presto\u2019s listing, which implies at least one high-res version. ([prestomusic.com](https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/articles/5690--recording-of-the-week-handels-messiah-from-john-nelson?utm_source=openai))  \n\nThus, the live CD itself seems to present excellent sound quality relative to typical live classical choral recordings. \n\n---\n\n## Any Different Mastering or Alternate, Improved Versions?\n\n- I found **no** indication in the sources I checked of a *different studio/mastered version* of those same live performances (for example, alternate mixing, remastering, or edited \u201cstudio\u2010style\u201d overdubs) beyond what\u2019s included in the standard live release. No sources mention that Nelson released a \u201cre-mastered\u201d version differing significantly from the CD set\u2019s audio.  \n\n- One Japanese review (in Mikiki by TOWER RECORDS) mentions \u201c\u9332\u97f3\u97f3\u6e90&\u6620\u50cf (on the sound recording & on video),\u201d and describes the CD as a \u201csession recording,\u201d but that seems to refer to the live concert being captured, not to a separate studio session. ([mikiki.tokyo.jp](https://mikiki.tokyo.jp/articles/-/36505?utm_source=openai))  \n\n- From Reddit discussions by listeners, there are comments praising the clarity, warmth, soundstage, and low smear in Nelson\u2019s Erato recording of *Messiah*. One user writes: \u201cThe best\u2010recorded I know, with amazingly-clear, warm choral sound \u2014 no whisps or smearing \u2014 is Nelson\u2019s on Erato.\u201d But these are subjective impressions; no technical documentation of alternate mastering is noted. ([reddit.com](https://www.reddit.com/r/classicalmusic/comments/1gk2meh/what_recordings_of_messiah_do_you_like/?utm_source=openai))  \n\n---\n\n## Conclusion\n\nAs of now:\n\n- The main (and apparently only) official audio release of John Nelson & The English Concert\u2019s *Messiah* from Coventry is the **live** performance captured on CD / DVD / digital.\n- There\u2019s **no evidence** of any separate studio re\u2010recording or significantly different mastering of those same performances.\n- The live CD is well\u2010recorded, high fidelity, with clear sound, good spatial depth, and minimal acoustic issues, according to reviewers.\n\n---\n\nIf you like, I can try to check for any upcoming or more niche audiophile / SACD / vinyl versions which might use alternative masterings. Do you want me to dig into that?"
    },
    {
        "role": "user",
        "content": "what%20is%20the%20name%20o%20the%20cd%20that%20was%20in%20part%20taken%20from%20the%20live%20concert%20cd"
    },
    {
        "role": "assistant",
        "content": "The CD you're asking about is titled **Handel: Messiah (2 CD + DVD)** by John Nelson conducting The English Concert & Choir. It was recorded live in **November 2022** at the New St Michael\u2019s Cathedral, Coventry, and released in **November 2023** on the Erato/Warner Classics label. ([elcorteingles.es](https://www.elcorteingles.es/musica/A49706995-handel-messiah-2-cd--dvd/?utm_source=openai))\n\nIt includes the full live oratorio, plus bonus tracks (alternate arias) all drawn from the 2022 Coventry performances. ([opusklassiek.nl](https://www.opusklassiek.nl/cd-recensies/cd-aw/haendel60.htm?utm_source=openai))"
    },
    {
        "role": "user",
        "content": "what%20I%20asked%20was%20about%20the%20other%20cd%20that%20only%20had%20some%20of%20message%20that.%20what%20is%20its%20title%20was%20taken%20from%20the%20live%20concert"
    },
    {
        "role": "assistant",
        "content": "I checked the sources: I couldn\u2019t find any credible indication of a *separate CD* release that *only* contains some portions of The English Concert live *Messiah* performance, aside from the full live album with bonus tracks.  \n\nThe main relevant album \u2014 *Handel: Messiah* by John Nelson / The English Concert & Choir \u2014 is the full live oratorio recorded in November 2022 at Coventry, released Nov 2023, and includes **bonus tracks** (alternative versions of certain arias) in addition to the complete performance. ([bestbuy.com](https://www.bestbuy.com/product/lisette-oropesa-handel-messiah-2xcd-bonus-dvd-compact-discs/CL2JV43SRY?utm_source=openai))\n\nSo unless there\u2019s an unofficial/compilation CD (not clearly listed in the major databases) that \u201cselects only some parts\u201d from that concert, there\u2019s no known CD with *only* selected arias/chroses from the live concert under a different title \u2014 according to the sources I checked.\n\nIf you want, I can try to dig into discography databases or collector forums to see if any compilation exists outside the mainstream that matches your description."
    }
]