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    {
        "role": "user",
        "content": "I%20recently%20heard%20about%20the%20Apple%20HomeView%20device%20and%20there%20LigTech%20Camera%20partnership.%20I%20was%20curious%2C%20best%20as%20I%20recall%20when%20MATTER%20and%20THREAD%20were%20oringally%20released%2C%20there%20was%20no%20support%20for%20certain%20Home%20Automation%20devices%20such%20as%20video%20and%20camera%20devices%2C%20has%20that%20changed%20since%20or%20is%20there%20still%20proprietary%20stuff%2C%20or%20has%20MaTTER%20and%20THREAD%20support%20covers%20video%20and%20camera%20devices%3F"
    },
    {
        "role": "assistant",
        "content": "Here\u2019s where things stand as of mid-October 2026 with Matter, Thread, Apple, cameras/video, and how Apple\u2019s new HomeView fits in. I\u2019ll break it down step by step: first the new HomeView & related partnerships; then the status of Matter/Thread with video/camera support; and finally what this means practically (what works and what doesn\u2019t yet).\n\n---\n\n## Apple HomeView & the LigTech(?) partnership\n\n- *HomeView* is Apple\u2019s new smart-home display. It functions as a central hub and provides a way to view video feeds, receive doorbell alerts, control accessories, etc. It's made for seeing who\u2019s at the door, controlling home locks, lighting, temperature, etc., all integrated with the Home app. ([techradar.com](https://www.techradar.com/home/smart-home/ive-seen-apples-homeview-smart-display-in-action?utm_source=openai))  \n- The \u201cLigTech Camera\u201d you mentioned seems to be a misunderstanding or mis-reference. Apple announced \u201cApple Home Collection\u201d accessories in collaboration with LG and Schneider Electric, which include smart cameras, doorbells, locks, etc. ([techradar.com](https://www.techradar.com/home/smart-home/apple-home-is-getting-a-new-doorbell-cameras-and-smart-lock-but-apple-isnt-making-them?utm_source=openai))  \n- HomeView supports up to nine video feeds at once on its \u201cCamera face,\u201d and it works with existing Home-compatible and Matter-compatible devices. So, it\u2019s meant to be a visual/control center for your home cameras and video doorbells. ([techradar.com](https://www.techradar.com/home/smart-home/ive-seen-apples-homeview-smart-display-in-action?utm_source=openai))\n\n---\n\n## Has support changed for camera/video devices under Matter & Thread?\n\n### What Matter & Thread are\n\n- **Matter** is an application-layer smart-home standard. It defines how devices talk to one another, independent of the underlying network. ([en.wikipedia.org](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matter_%28standard%29?utm_source=openai))  \n- **Thread** is a low-power, mesh-network protocol that\u2019s often used by Matter devices. But it\u2019s *not* suited for bandwidth-heavy things like video streaming. For video, Wi-Fi or Ethernet is what\u2019s used. ([networkingsignal.com](https://www.networkingsignal.com/matter-vs-thread/?utm_source=openai))\n\n### Camera/Video support in Matter\n\n- Matter did *not* support cameras in its early versions (< 1.5). That meant video-doorbells and security cameras weren\u2019t covered by Matter specs; they either used proprietary protocols, were only compatible via HomeKit Secure Video, or needed vendor-specific solutions. ([latchandhub.com](https://latchandhub.com/guides/what-devices-work-with-matter?utm_source=openai))  \n- As of late 2025, Matter 1.5 introduced *camera support*. This includes live streaming, audio, snapshot functionality, video-doorbell type clusters, etc. It enables video + audio streaming using standard formats (e.g. via WebRTC under the hood), snapshot, two-way audio, etc. ([developer.espressif.com](https://developer.espressif.com/blog/2026/01/introducing-esp-matter-camera/?utm_source=openai))  \n- However, Apple has **not yet enabled camera support via Matter** in Home/HomeKit. Apple continues to rely on its own system: *HomeKit Secure Video*. Apple\u2019s Apple-documentation and observed behavior suggest Matter camera support is still excluded from Apple\u2019s \u201cMatter accessories\u201d list. ([smartlivingweb.com](https://smartlivingweb.com/matter/cameras/?utm_source=openai))\n\n---\n\n## Apple Home\u2019s current video/camera ecosystem\n\n- Apple has long supported cameras via **HomeKit Secure Video (HKSV)**. These cameras are tightly integrated: video is encrypted end-to-end, iCloud+ subscription is required for storage and recording features, etc. ([support.apple.com](https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/security/sec525461d19/web?utm_source=openai))  \n- Recently, at WWDC 2026, Apple announced **4K resolution support** for HomeKit Secure Video cameras, better event summaries with intelligence, improved face detection/search, etc. ([youtube.com](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teYpVJvgwRQ&utm_source=openai))  \n- The Home app and HomeView now display camera feeds, allow viewing of live streams, and can show multiple feeds at once. ([techradar.com](https://www.techradar.com/home/smart-home/ive-seen-apples-homeview-smart-display-in-action?utm_source=openai))\n\n---\n\n## What\u2019s possible now \u2014 practical picture\n\nHere\u2019s a summary table of what\u2019s currently in place and what still isn\u2019t, as of October 2026:\n\n| Feature / Scenario | Supported Now | Not Yet Supported / Limitations |\n|---------------------|----------------|-------------------------------|\n| Native Matter-based cameras (video streaming, doorbells, etc.) in Apple Home | **No**\u2014Apple hasn\u2019t enabled Matter camera support yet. Users must use HomeKit Secure Video for camera features. ([smartlivingweb.com](https://smartlivingweb.com/matter/cameras/?utm_source=openai)) |\n| Matter 1.5 camera features in other ecosystems | **Yes**\u2014live video, audio streaming, snapshots, doorbell cluster are now standard in Matter 1.5. ([developer.espressif.com](https://developer.espressif.com/blog/2026/01/introducing-esp-matter-camera/?utm_source=openai)) |\n| Video over Thread | **No**\u2014Thread lacks bandwidth for video. Cameras using Matter use **WiFi** or Ethernet. ([networkingsignal.com](https://www.networkingsignal.com/matter-vs-thread/?utm_source=openai)) |\n| HomeView\u2019s integration with cameras | **Yes**\u2014HomeView displays camera feeds, alerts (doorbell), can show up to 9 camera views. But those feeds still come via HomeKit Secure Video or existing compatible streams. ([techradar.com](https://www.techradar.com/home/smart-home/ive-seen-apples-homeview-smart-display-in-action?utm_source=openai)) |\n\n---\n\n## Bottom line: Where things stand\n\n- When Matter and Thread originally rolled out, **camera/video devices were missing** from the supported types. It was always a known limitation.  \n- With the arrival of **Matter 1.5**, camera/video support is now part of the specification \u2014 so device manufacturers *can* build Matter-certified cameras/doorbells with streaming etc. ([developer.espressif.com](https://developer.espressif.com/blog/2026/01/introducing-esp-matter-camera/?utm_source=openai))  \n- However, **Apple has not adopted Matter\u2019s camera support** in Home/HomeKit yet. Apple continues to rely on its own system (HKSV) for video, recording, etc. If you have HKSV-compatible cameras, you\u2019re good; if you buy a Matter 1.5 camera expecting full integration with Apple Home via Matter, you\u2019ll likely hit gaps.  \n- HomeView is designed to surface video content well in Apple\u2019s ecosystem, but under the hood it's still using Apple\u2019s secure video pipeline, not Matter for cameras, at least for now.  \n\n---\n\nIf you\u2019d like, I can pull up some examples of Matter 1.5 cameras that might work with (or without) Apple Home, so you can see what to watch out for when buying. Want me to do that?"
    },
    {
        "role": "user",
        "content": "Ok%2C%20so%20these%20newly%20annonced%20Logitech%20or%20perhaps%20its%20LG%20Cameras%20that%20were%20announced%20during%20the%20Apple%20HomeView%20Event%2C%20do%20they%20support%20the%20new%20MATTER%20camera%20and%20video%20stuff%20from%20the%20new%201.5%20Matter%20procol%20from%20late%202025%3F"
    },
    {
        "role": "assistant",
        "content": "Here\u2019s what information I found about LG\u2019s \u201cApple Home Collection\u201d cameras (indoor, outdoor, video doorbell, floodlight etc.), and whether they support Matter 1.5\u2019s new video-/camera features or are instead built around HomeKit Secure Video.\n\n---\n\n## What Apple & LG Announced: The New Home Collection\n\nFrom the various press releases and coverage around the October 2026 Apple event:\n\n- Apple\u2019s new **Apple Home Collection** (with LG Electronics and Schneider Electric) includes **indoor/outdoor cameras, a video doorbell, thermostat, temperature sensors, lock etc.** ([lg.com](https://www.lg.com/us/newsroom/home-appliance/lg-electronics-announces-new-smart-home-accessories-designed-in-collaboration-with-apple-for-the-apple-home-collection?utm_source=openai))  \n- The collection supports the Apple Home app and LG ThinQ app; each product is designed to set up simply, works with HomeView, HomePod / HomePod mini, Apple TV 4K etc. ([lg.com](https://www.lg.com/us/newsroom/home-appliance/lg-electronics-announces-new-smart-home-accessories-designed-in-collaboration-with-apple-for-the-apple-home-collection?utm_source=openai))  \n\n---\n\n## Matter Compatibility: Which Devices & What They Support\n\nMatter 1.5 introduced native support for smart cameras\u2014including video streaming, doorbell functions, etc. So the question is whether these LG Home Collection cameras are using that new standard or still using Apple\u2019s older system (HomeKit Secure Video). Based on what is public right now:\n\n| Device or Device Category | Matter Compatibility (as per Apple / LG) | HomeKit Secure Video or Apple-only Features | Notes / Caveats |\n|---------------------------|--------------------------------------------|------------------------------------------------|-----------------|\n| Smart Lock, Thermostats, and Sensors (LG\u2019s & Schneider\u2019s) | \u2705 They are specifically called \u201cMatter- compatible\u201d devices. ([images.apple.com](https://images.apple.com/newsroom/2026/10/introducing-apple-home-collection-a-new-lineup-of-smart-home-accessories/?utm_source=openai)) | These handle climate, access, or environmental sensing. Makes sense they use Matter, not video streaming. | These will interoperable with other Matter ecosystems (potentially). |\n| The LG Cameras & Video Doorbell (indoor, outdoor, floodlight etc.) | \u274c As things stand, **no** official confirmation that LG\u2019s new cameras support the Matter video/camera clusters from Matter 1.5. | They are instead clearly described as **HomeKit Secure Video** cameras (which is Apple\u2019s proprietary system), plus support for Thread & Wi-Fi. ([matterhome.io](https://matterhome.io/news/apple-home-collection-lg-schneider-matter?utm_source=openai)) | So even though they\u2019re technically \u201cWorks with Apple Home,\u201d they don\u2019t appear to be using Matter\u2019s camera features. |\n| Thread support | \u2705 Yes \u2013 some LG cameras and devices support Thread and WiFi. ([lg.com](https://www.lg.com/us/newsroom/home-appliance/lg-electronics-announces-new-smart-home-accessories-designed-in-collaboration-with-apple-for-the-apple-home-collection?utm_source=openai)) | Thread is used for low-power connectivity / control or fallback etc. Not for video streaming. | WiFi is still needed for the bandwidth for video. |\n\nThat\u2019s the gist: **locks, thermostats, sensors = Matter; cameras = HomeKit Secure Video\u2014so far.**\n\n---\n\n## Why Cameras Are Still HomeKit Secure Video, Not Matter (Clues & Implications)\n\n- Apple\u2019s announcements explicitly describe LG cameras as being under **HomeKit Secure Video (HKSV)**: the specs include encrypted storage, iCloud+ video history, recognition of people, pets, packages etc. ([lg.com](https://www.lg.com/us/newsroom/home-appliance/lg-electronics-announces-new-smart-home-accessories-designed-in-collaboration-with-apple-for-the-apple-home-collection?utm_source=openai))  \n- In \u201cApple Home Collection: which LG and Schneider accessories use Matter\u201d (from *Matterhome.io*), there\u2019s a clear split: **the lock, thermostats, and sensors are Matter-compatible**, **while the four LG cameras (including the doorbell)** are described as **HomeKit cameras**, meaning they are *not* Matter cameras. ([matterhome.io](https://matterhome.io/news/apple-home-collection-lg-schneider-matter?utm_source=openai))  \n- The public spec sheets do not yet list the LG cameras under Matter device types or clusters; instead they list \u201cHomeKit, Thread, WiFi\u201d as connections and \u201cHomeKit Secure Video\u201d features. ([apple.com](https://www.apple.com/shop/home/accessories/home-security/apple-homeview?utm_source=openai))  \n\n---\n\n## What That Means in Practice (For You, If Buying/Living with This)\n\nHere\u2019s what you should expect:\n\n- These new LG cameras will work smoothly in Apple\u2019s ecosystem: Home app, HomeView, iCloud+ storage, etc. But **their video streaming & doorbell features won\u2019t come natively under Matter** \u2014 meaning cross-platform use with Matter for video (if you want stream or events in, say, Amazon Alexa or Google Home using Matter) likely won\u2019t be possible out of the box.\n- The non-video devices (locks, thermostats, sensors) *are* Matter-friendly, which means they play nicely across ecosystems that embrace Matter.\n- If ultimate interoperability (using cameras across different voice assistants / hubs via Matter video) is a priority for you, these LG cameras may still fall short until/if Apple or LG enable Matter video support for them (or firmware updates). Right now, they appear designed to keep the video ecosystem inside Apple\u2019s HKSV realm.\n\n---\n\n## Bottom Line\n\n- The newly announced **LG cameras** for the Apple Home Collection **do not yet support** the camera/video features introduced in **Matter 1.5** \u2014 they are instead HomeKit Secure Video devices.\n- The parts of the lineup that *are* Matter-capable include the **smart deadbolt lock, thermostats, and sensors**.\n- If you plan on staying within Apple\u2019s ecosystem, these cameras will deliver strong features. If you need video devices that work via Matter across ecosystems, you\u2019ll need to wait for either updated cameras or firmware that adds Matter camera support.\n\n---\n\nIf you like, I can check whether there are any leaks or statements from Apple or LG confirming plans to bring Matter video to these cameras later, so you can decide whether to buy now or wait. Do you want me to dig into that?"
    },
    {
        "role": "user",
        "content": "Can%20you%20see%20if%20these%20new%20LG%20Cameras%20for%20the%20Apple%20HomeView%20suporot%20MATTER%201.5%3F"
    },
    {
        "role": "assistant",
        "content": "I checked the latest announcements and documentation, and the answer is pretty clear: the **new LG cameras** in Apple\u2019s **Home Collection** do *not* currently support Matter 1.5\u2019s camera/video features. Here are the details and what we know so far.\n\n---\n\n## What\u2019s Confirmed\n\n1. **Matter Support for Lock, Thermostat, Sensors**  \n   LG\u2019s Smart Deadbolt Lock, both thermostats (LG and Schneider), and the temperature/humidity sensors are *explicitly listed* as Matter-compatible. ([matterhome.io](https://matterhome.io/news/apple-home-collection-lg-schneider-matter?utm_source=openai))\n\n2. **Cameras Are HomeKit Secure Video Devices**  \n   The four new cameras (Video Doorbell, Outdoor Cam, Indoor Cam, and Floodlight Cam) are described as **HomeKit Secure Video** (HKSV) devices, not Matter cameras. This means they are managed in Apple Home, store video via iCloud+, etc. There is *no* claim or evidence yet that they support the Matter video or doorbell \"camera\" clusters. ([matterhome.io](https://matterhome.io/news/apple-home-collection-lg-schneider-matter?utm_source=openai))\n\n3. **Connectivity**  \n   These cameras support Wi-Fi and Thread\u2014but Thread is used for low-power control connectivity, **not video streaming**. High-bandwidth operations like video require Wi-Fi. ([matterhome.io](https://matterhome.io/news/apple-home-collection-lg-schneider-matter?utm_source=openai))\n\n4. **What Apple\u2019s Specification Says**  \n   Apple\u2019s press release\u2014and third-party summaries\u2014make a point of calling out which accessories are Matter-compatible. The cameras are *not* listed among them; instead, the cameras are described using HomeKit Secure Video terms (video resolution, iCloud+ history, etc.). ([matterhome.io](https://matterhome.io/news/apple-home-collection-lg-schneider-matter?utm_source=openai))\n\n---\n\n## Matter 1.5 Camera Features Exist\u2014but Not Yet Here on These Devices\n\n- Matter 1.5 does include support for camera/video/doorbell devices: live video, snapshots, audio, etc. ([tomsguide.com](https://www.tomsguide.com/home/smart-home/matter-1-5-update-launches-with-3-new-features-including-security-camera-support?utm_source=openai))  \n- But announcing support in a specification doesn't mean every newly released camera uses it. These LG cameras appear *designed for Apple\u2019s secure video system*, not Matter\u2019s camera clusters. ([matterhome.io](https://matterhome.io/news/apple-home-collection-lg-schneider-matter?utm_source=openai))\n\n---\n\n## Bottom Line\n\nNo, the new LG cameras in Apple\u2019s Home Collection **do not** support Matter 1.5 video/camera features *at this time*. They are *HomeKit Secure Video* devices. If you want a camera that uses Matter 1.5 video clusters (for interoperability beyond Apple), these aren\u2019t it\u2014at least not yet.\n\n---\n\nIf you want, I can try to find whether there are planned firmware updates or roadmap hints that LG/Apple will add Matter camera support in the future. Do you want me to check that?"
    }
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